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Helping Hackers - There are no fundamentals in golf.    Back to Topics  Page: 1 of 32     
From: DiNunzio (1 of 320)   10/27/2009 2:06:59 PM
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As much as everyone likes to think that there are things in the golf swing that MUST or MUST NOT be done, the fact is that for most every teaching point there is an equally effective counter-point.

In the end, the only people that are truly qualified to tell anyone how to swing a golf club are those who have reached an elite level in the game. Trouble is, if you look at all those who have reached the highest level, their theories and their swing actions are not the same and-- often times--extremely dissimilar.

Name something one great player does and you never have to look far to find another great player that succeeds by doing the very opposite.

Outside of finishing the swing with most of your weight on your left foot (for a righty) and keeping both hands on the club throughout your action, what are some other things that can be considered absolutely fundamental to an effective swing?

I don't think there's many.
Edited 10/27/2009 2:09:00 PM by DiNunzio

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From: Muggyweather (2 of 320)   10/27/2009 2:45:52 PM
To: DiNunzio In response to Post 1
Weight on left foot at the finish for a righty is an uncontested fundamental? Says who? You never saw Nicklaus, Miller and Weiskopf in the 70s? Miller still thinks the Reverse C is going to come back.

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From: DiNunzio (3 of 320)   10/27/2009 2:47:54 PM
To: Muggyweather In response to Post 2
good call...my point exactly

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From: GoneToGolf (4 of 320)   10/27/2009 3:24:36 PM
To: DiNunzio In response to Post 1
Fundamentals......grip stance alignment

There's nothing that says they have to be the same as anyone else......they must work together to hit the ball

These are all unique to you, they are your fundamentals.

Stance, it needs to be so that you will be in balance throughout the swing.

Grip, needs to be so that the hands work together, not restricting.

Alignment, needs to be so that you return the club to the ball in the desired direction.

You change one, then most likely you will need to change the others....they are related.

Yes, there are instructors(well at least they wrote a book) and people on this board, that believe everything they do is what everyone else should do.......that is not fundamentals

There are things that should be

Knees bent....just try swinging the club with your knees locked. I probably have the least knee bend of anybody(but they are bent), I bend them just enough to allow freedom of waist movement.

Bend at waist, this is a part of balance, it moves your butt back and chest forward, keeping you in balance. If you hunch your back, you restrict hip movement, and it restricts shoulder turn.



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From: Muggyweather (5 of 320)   10/27/2009 3:52:29 PM
To: GoneToGolf In response to Post 4
You mean bend from the hips, not the waist?

Clampett in Impact Zone Golf will say "loading" and "laging" are the fundamentals, and the other issues everyone disagrees on are "styles."

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From: Rali (6 of 320)   10/27/2009 4:06:50 PM
To: DiNunzio In response to Post 1
Fundentals: GASP (grip, alignment, stance, posture) as taught by the John Jacobs Golf Schools.

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From: GoneToGolf (7 of 320)   10/27/2009 4:09:06 PM
To: Muggyweather In response to Post 5
Yes hips not waist.

Not read it, but if you don't load the shaft the ball won't go......if you don't have lag then you are casting.

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From: Rali (8 of 320)   10/27/2009 4:14:15 PM
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Oops....should be "fundamentals"...I think my fingers got way ahead of my brain there (or vice versa). :-)

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From: hadentaylor (9 of 320)   10/27/2009 4:31:16 PM
To: Muggyweather In response to Post 2
"Weight on left foot at the finish for a righty is an uncontested fundamental? Says who? You never saw Nicklaus, Miller and Weiskopf in the 70s"
With all due respect, I think you are mistaken about these three players.
While they and many other golfers of their day employed what we would loosely call a reverse c, that only refers to the shape of the spine in the follow thru. Just because a player uses the reverse c, does not automatically mean they are using a reverse pivot. All the good players of the day who used the reverse c still had the weight going forward onto the left foot at and after impact. It just looks like they are hanging back on the right side because their upper body is trailing. I would sugest that it is indeed a fundamental of golf that the weight goes mostly to the right foot on the backswing, and mostly to the left foot on the downswing. All top players do this - wether they have a reverse c or not.

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From: Saints Go Marching In (10 of 320)   10/27/2009 4:38:03 PM
To: DiNunzio In response to Post 1
The only true fundamentals are having the clubface square to your target at impact and hitting the ball flush.

How one gets to that point is up to them.

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